Low Output Levels

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dayum!!
Where’s the lundahls tho… :wink:

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:rofl:
That will be for the PRO version

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I am having the same experience. The mix out of the S2400 is going into my Apollo, as well as my MPC. The MPC’s output at 1/4 volume matches the S2400 at full volume. Will have to strap on a pre-amp to get things even.

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I am getting the same issue as well. If I sample in at the max volume then play it back the levels are way down in volume. If I normalise the sample the output level is still down in volume. Hmm

You need to turn the gain up in the receiving equipment (soundcard or mixer…etc.)

I use a behringer ada8200 adat converter. Handy and good value for money :slight_smile:

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I am not a technical guy.
To remedy the low output levels you can apply the gain boost added in the latest firmware, right?
But if you go beyond 0 db, doesn’t that clip the audio?
I am confused.
Is the low output level issue solved with the gain boost or not?
Greetings,Jeroen

Taken from the manual:

The upper range can go beyond 0dB. At 0dB, the sounds will play at full volume, beyond that the sound will be amplified. At some point, the sound will clip. A tube-like soft clipping algorithm is used which can actually sound great for some samples.

It is also discussed a bit in the 2 hour video with Flux, Vlad, Mickey and Brad.

It is something useful in a live performance point of view I think. For standard use, external preamp to boost the output level is needed.

By the way, I used the boost in mixer mode in the following video. My main sample has envelope, filter…etc applied and I override/ un-override it. To be able to compensate the lost of level due to the filter setting I applied a boost of 20db or something like this for track 7.

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Thank you for your reply!
Greetings,
Jeroen

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Glad to discover this is not an individual problem with my unit. I don’t have the mix out connected as a pre wired my patch bay for the s2400 and have been scratching my head at the reason why the audio level was so low.

So when boosting the level in a DAW how does the noise floor sound guys? (I’ll be trying it soon enough but havn’t had the chance yet)

What are people’s work around for the low levels? I’ve got a couple of Hairball Lola pre amps but I wanted to be able to record all channels at once rather than having to do two tracks at a time.

Except increasing the gain on the preamp there is nothing much you can do.

Maybe try to use USB audio out. It has a hot level compared to analog out.

I suppose it s because we have a tendency to normalize and set levels towards the maximum in the machine to compensate for low output levels.

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Ok thanks. I’m going to check if normalising my samples help out with this. Appreciate your reply!

I’ll bare in mind the usb audio should it be a problem

And if you use the waveform editor a lot, normalize helps you to visualize what you’re doing. I don’t think there is a ā€œverticalā€ zoom so no other choice than boosting what can be boost :slight_smile:

Yes there’s a shortcut to get to the wave editor was it shift A or something ?

A button in loop/slice mode then Level button on the left to access to the normalize function

Ok thank you I’ll try that out soon and see how the output levels are :+1:

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What’s your system calibrated to? Mine is calibrated to +4dBu = -16dBfs in the DAW. I’m using TS cables and level is perfectly fine. I don’t get close to 0dBfs until mastering.

The Same

What is your target level?

dB and dBV are not the same. If my target level is -18dBFS, that’s what I meter everything in the DAW with. ā€œdBFSā€. You seem to be mixing metering units. First thing to test is your converter output with another channel converter input using the same metering scale.

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