For me AHDSHR envelopes are too much in most scenarios, especially as they are percentage based, it makes adjustment unnecessarily fiddly/annoying. I’ve never come across 6 stage envelopes on any of my previous synths or samplers, ADSR seems to be the standard. A simple check box on the track settings would allow us to choose, and not cause any backward compatibility issues.
Yes pleeeeeaaaaassseee.
Did the og have ahdshr?
S2400 also has the original envelope
Which is?
A simplified Sustain/Release - check manual for more detailed info.
HOLD after ATTACK is often very useful for drumsounds, isn’t it?
ADSR is all you need in most scenarios but the 6 stage could be there as an option if you needed
I’ve been using my S2400 almost daily for nearly the past three years and the envelope editor screen is the only part of this machine I have yet to get comfortable with.
I’m just getting back into it having not used it for about a year - the time based envelopes are tricky enough to work with on the small screen, the 6 stages are endlessly frustrating
As far as I’m aware, all MPCs up to the 4000 just had attack/decay. The classic Akai samplers (s950, 3000 etc) had ADSR. I don’t actually know of a hardware sampler with 6-stage envelopes, AHDSHR is more like an envelope you’d get on a plugin where it’s much easier to interact with. Overkill on the S2400 and is an obstacle rather than an aid, certainly for me. Hope it can be changed.
Holds to “ZERO”… You’re welcome.
+1 for sure, im in full agreement. We NEED for this machine <3
I also get a bit tripped up by the envelopes as they exist right now. I think an option that might fit the HW nicely would be a HiFi time-based ADSR in a MiniMoog style, where D and R are the same thing. Then you could have three parameters ADS available per-track from the front panel with no “detail mode.” S=0 takes you to AD envelopes similar to the 12-bit option, but without the crunch.
Yes! And also be able to choose between envelope by time (seconds) or percentage of sample size (as it is now).
I have been trying to use the loop function on waveforms like many use on the Elektron Digitak to make leads/bass… but on the S2400 all envelopes are based on sample size. So when looping a waveform is very small (less than a second) the envelope can never be bigger than that making it very impossible to make bass leads…
For whatever it’s worth, and something I also had to get my head around, is that the S2400 isn’t a Digitakt. Certainly there are some similarities, but there is less monosynth and more one-shot + chop shop in the S2400.
Yes, certainly. However, I find it strange that the internal memory comes with single-cycle wave samples from the factory when there is such a huge difficulty in applying a filter envelope—such a simple utility. I believe the S2400 is an excellent machine, but the software needs many improvements to become a stronger competitor against other brands and secure a more solid position in the market.