Option to have ADSR instead of AHDSHR envelopes please

For me AHDSHR envelopes are too much in most scenarios, especially as they are percentage based, it makes adjustment unnecessarily fiddly/annoying. I’ve never come across 6 stage envelopes on any of my previous synths or samplers, ADSR seems to be the standard. A simple check box on the track settings would allow us to choose, and not cause any backward compatibility issues.

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Yes pleeeeeaaaaassseee.
Did the og have ahdshr?

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S2400 also has the original envelope

Which is?

A simplified Sustain/Release - check manual for more detailed info.

HOLD after ATTACK is often very useful for drumsounds, isn’t it?

ADSR is all you need in most scenarios but the 6 stage could be there as an option if you needed

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I’ve been using my S2400 almost daily for nearly the past three years and the envelope editor screen is the only part of this machine I have yet to get comfortable with.

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I’m just getting back into it having not used it for about a year - the time based envelopes are tricky enough to work with on the small screen, the 6 stages are endlessly frustrating :grimacing:

As far as I’m aware, all MPCs up to the 4000 just had attack/decay. The classic Akai samplers (s950, 3000 etc) had ADSR. I don’t actually know of a hardware sampler with 6-stage envelopes, AHDSHR is more like an envelope you’d get on a plugin where it’s much easier to interact with. Overkill on the S2400 and is an obstacle rather than an aid, certainly for me. Hope it can be changed.

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Holds to “ZERO”… You’re welcome.

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+1 for sure, im in full agreement. We NEED for this machine <3

I also get a bit tripped up by the envelopes as they exist right now. I think an option that might fit the HW nicely would be a HiFi time-based ADSR in a MiniMoog style, where D and R are the same thing. Then you could have three parameters ADS available per-track from the front panel with no “detail mode.” S=0 takes you to AD envelopes similar to the 12-bit option, but without the crunch.

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Yes! And also be able to choose between envelope by time (seconds) or percentage of sample size (as it is now).

I have been trying to use the loop function on waveforms like many use on the Elektron Digitak to make leads/bass… but on the S2400 all envelopes are based on sample size. So when looping a waveform is very small (less than a second) the envelope can never be bigger than that making it very impossible to make bass leads…

For whatever it’s worth, and something I also had to get my head around, is that the S2400 isn’t a Digitakt. Certainly there are some similarities, but there is less monosynth and more one-shot + chop shop in the S2400.

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Yes, certainly. However, I find it strange that the internal memory comes with single-cycle wave samples from the factory when there is such a huge difficulty in applying a filter envelope—such a simple utility. I believe the S2400 is an excellent machine, but the software needs many improvements to become a stronger competitor against other brands and secure a more solid position in the market.