Dsp, dsp, dsp!

Oh no, that’s unfortunate!

Ordered my card finally…

can somebody please convert the DP4 fx for the S2400
and include a Fixed FIlterbank? thank you :wink:

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Now we’re talking!! +1

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Ordered. Back in the boat wanking queue.

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Don’t really understand all the chat about compilers etc. above as I’m a beat maker, not an app dev. Anyone care to translate?

Holding off on the preorder until I understand more about plugin compatibility. Not spending loot without knowing if SoundToys, Waves etc. will run on it.

unlikely

So basically your typical commercially available plugins from the big names (waves, etc) are usually built for mainstream platforms like MacOS/Windows. Furthermore those plugins have to be built specifically for the type of computer architectures they target (I.e. intel, ARM).

My understanding is that the upcoming DSP card will be Linux/ARM based, and for anyone reading this with more info please correct me if I’m wrong. That platform/architecture combination is not as widely supported by the big plugin makers because it’s not as popular among producers, sound engineers, etc. It’s possible many of your favorite plugins may not work on the DSP card because of this. HOWEVER the benefit of the Linux/ARM platform is that it is open, meaning that anyone can freely develop and distribute their own plugins for this platform. If everything is setup the right way you’ll see a community of developers making new plugins for the DSP card, usually at a reduced or no cost to consumers compared to the big commercial plugins. There are already a lot of great plugins made for Linux as well, and some are great alternatives to Mac/windows counterparts. I’m looking forward to the possibility of making some plugins for the DSP card and sharing them with y’all.

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Anyone know what toolset will be available with immediate installation?

Eq, saturation, distortion, compression, delay, dressed, reverb plate, reverb chamber, other reverb types?

Thanks. Still so many questions.

Will it work with something like Yabridge i.e. a bridge or vst wrapper for Linux? And what about iLok or dongle authentication - is that why it has those usb ports on the pcb? Or are those authentication methods not a factor in Linux world?

(I know F all about Linux except that it used to be a PITA to do anything with, unless you were the sort of person who likes to troubleshoot PC operating systems for fun. But that was years ago, maybe now its super awesome for dumb musicians like me who hate computers).

I get why they went for Linux and open source, but most people use Windows or Apple and want the seamless experience of having the same plugins they know & love in DAW and hardware, not of having to search around for shady equivalents in the terra incognita of Linux world.

Computer shit has F’d up more of my music sessions than I can even remember, and the whole point of the S2400 is to focus on hardware music making. Now I’m supposed to arm wrestle a new operating system? Forget it. I suppose this plug-in card just isn’t for Luddites like me.

Still, like someone said above Isla are super smart people, I’m sure they have a plan. Just trying to figure out their reasoning, since they haven’t exactly been forthcoming on practical details of how it is supposed to work.

This is against Linux philosophy and should not be practiced

It’s impossible to use Windows or MacOS in this application due to licensing issues. It’s honestly quite amusing that people are expecting it to be an add-on computer with all their commercially available plugins. IIRC, someone even asked for Serum and Ozone. They are completely detached from reality. How do people even expect to control such plugins from such a tiny screen without a mouse?

+1 for microsoft excel on the dsp card.

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Why impossible - isn’t this exactly what Muse Receptor does? It too runs a version of Linux natively, but you can transfer Windows plugins to run on the device. And it can run VST instruments like Omnisphere etc.

The prerogative of Muse Receptor is false. It is not VST plugins without computer because IT IS a computer by itself.
The should say, a computer to only run your VST plugins.
I totally agree with cfd2.
If you need your windows/mac plugins, buy a sound card with enough ins and outs and run the outputs of the s2400 thru them.

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But this is also exactly how Brad describes the DSP card - a self contained computer to run your plugins, inside the 2400. So we are no closer to figuring out it’s compatibility it seems.

I think it’s best not to get hung up on using Mac/Windows plugins in the S2400. I get that you’d like to use pre-existing plug-ins but it’s not what the DSP card was necessarily designed to do. It would be better to focus on the DSP card as a product that expands the possibilities of audio processing with the S2400. It’s a new product that’s compatible with the VST plugin format. That’s a separate thing from compatibility with pre-existing plugins.

Given all the things we’re trying to explain it boils down to this: new plugins have to be developed for this DSP card in the context of the S2400. The S2400 is not a PC or a DAW so new plugins would have to be developed to work with what the S2400 is and what it does. There’s a possibility that pre-existing VST plugins may work if they’re compatible with the DSP card’s architecture, but I don’t think any guarantees were made about that.

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I’m not getting ‘hung up’ about anything, but thanks for your concern. It’s actually a legitimate and fundamental enquiry about a pricy add-on that I suspect will make or break the deal for many users like myself.

But it’s clear to me that noone on this thread actually has a clue about what the card can or can’t do, merely unwanted gate-keepery opinions, and speculation that’s equally uninformed to my own.

So I’ll bow out now and wait for an official update from Brad & team.

You’re asking fair and legitimate questions. I don’t want to speak for everyone else in this forum, but I don’t think it was anyone’s intention to gate keep here (certainly not mine). Many of us are going off the info Brad shared in this video: https://youtu.be/CuMf_553Ej4?si=dP_NFnvoVv8xrwht

I’m hoping we’ll see more demos from the Isla team soon showing what the workflow is like with the card. That’ll be more effective at answering your questions than any technical talk we make here.