I recently picked up the Tascam 12 as a budget way of being able to access the analog filters on the S2400. Not sure if anyone on here has experience with this setup, I’ve seen a handful of people using it. If so what’s the most effective way to run the inputs? I know I’ve only got 6 mono tracks to work with and I’m considering trying to return it for the Model 16 to have the full 8. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Fyi, if i’m not mistaken, with the new Bounce feature the tracks include all the changes using the analog filters. Still the Model 12 is a great unit specially for those not using a Daw to mix and record.
On the Model 24 there’s a mono switch, no idea why that was left out on the 12. Just did some reading and you can access 1-8 mono when it’s plugged into a computer. Since everything ends up in the DAW regardless maybe this is workable. Appreciate the feedback!
I’m going to be in the same boat as you next week so for me I was going to use the Tascam12 as a way to EQ my synths, records and such into the S2400. I know I can do that in the daw but sometimes I feel like I can get better results EQing before. Lots of beat makers and myself used to do it so I thought I would go back to that old workflow.
The plan was to USB into Ableton to track out, but to EQ into the S2400, and have my MPCX with a couple synths wired into the Tascam 12, but then have not the master but a different output to my S2400 so I dont gotta pull out cords all the time to sample into it. I will be doing this workflow for making more or less Beats/Hiphop. I will be doing jam sessions into the Tascam scratching records into it with whatever sampler I choose at the time recording into it. I went with the Tascam12 so I could control my DAW with it time to time.
Otherwise I’m trying to figure out a workflow where I can also make channel 7/8 and 9/10 into just a mono 7 and 8. So possibly somehow routing in the DAW would allow this. I’m really not sure. I always thought it was possible to make 7/8 into just a mono. Maybe just recording one channel and then panning it over? haha oldschool clunky workaround…
I might have to rethink getting a Model16, but then again I dont wan to spend an extra 500 if I dont have to.
Does the Tascam12 EQ’s do anything while its an interface? How about while its a controller?
That’s a dope workflow! I’m also running an MPC live mk2, partially why I went with the 12 since the 2 play so well. Tbh since I was on the fence between the 2 mixers, I haven’t taken the 12 out the box yet just in case I wanted to exchange it for the 16. I read on a forum post that 7/8 can be changed to 2 mono channels but they’ll both have the exact fader settings. Tbh I tend to run at least 1 element in my tracks in stereo, I’m wondering if I can find a way to use it to my advantage. But yeh, sadly haven’t heard it yet
Ok I see. Yeah I havent gotten mine yet. Im primarily a dj, so I use alot of those style mixers, but as far as this one goes I’ll be using it to record oldschool DNB/Jungle into it. Like all drums on one track. I find when seperating drums and processing them I lose the original sound, So many just sending all drums out one output, or like Kick and snare through one and HiHats/crashes through another. I know you may not get the full control of EQing each drum but if you need more channels for samples, synths and such, it might be the better way to go. Also I usually compress my drums together not each drum sound, but everyone is different. I did heard the Tascam12 faders, pan and maybe gain knobs send midi, which the Model16/24 do not. The EQ does not send midi though from what I hear. I’m just wondering if I used the Tascam12 with Ableton and use it for the 8 mono channels, can I use to EQ’s?? Ya know? Where did you rea about 7/8 could be mono?
“The TRS jacks are for standard TRS stereo line input. If only
the L jack in a pair is connected, the same signal was be sent
to both left and right channels.
When directly connecting a guitar, bass or other instrument,
set the INST switch to on (pushed in).”
Yeah but also some manuals are just terrible and more of an annoyance to go through so I get it. All good dude. I guess after recording you just gotta make the 2 stereos into mono’s in your daw. If you would like a mono sample to become stereo then shoot it through the 7/8 or the 9/10. shrugs
Started using the MPC-x last year instead of a DAW, and have it integrated with a Model-24,
run the s2400 into the mixer on channels 1-8. I’m sequencing the s2400 from the MPC, and then recording the audio from it back into the MPC on 8 channels. The wokflow is like butter. Bouncing stuff down to the s2400, and then back into the MPC multiple times for each song i’m composing, adds tons of flava. I’m sure you could get something like this going on with your setup, as they are basically the same, just a few less inputs.
Stuff i’m working on is all very mid 90’s Creative Source vibes, like what we used to pedantically call “Intelligent DnB”. I do feel smarter now that I don’t stare at a laptop with ableton live on it wondering what to do because I’ve got too many options at my mouseclicky.
Wouldnt there be an issue regarding the MPCX being a 44.1k Sampler and the S2400 being a 48k?
I’ve been trying to figure out this workflow and in order to get the MPCX running at 48k I gotta have it plugged in a computer then I can use it to edit samples on the S2400. If one sampler samples at 48 and another at 44.1 doesnt it mess with the sample? Makes the pitch off and add artifacts or something along those lines.
Anyways… I’m still figuring out my workflow with this machine.
Damn that sounds incredible! Can’t wait to give this a shot! I was planning on running the MPC usb connected to the Tascam 12, slaving the S2400 to the MPC via midi, and routing the S2400 1-8. I have heard about the aliasing issue though, what’s been your workaround if you don’t mind me asking? And intelligent dnb is fire! Could only imagine how sick of a sound you’re getting with the S2400!
Nah, don’t have any issues with 44.1 vs 48k. See, only use the s2400 in lo-fi modes anyways. Actually have it set for 8 bit on lots of samples and drums. Use lots of the same old tricks, speeding up to sample and slowing back down, etc. I’ve been making electronic music on samplers since the mid 1990s, so 44.1 stereo is plenty of fidelity when you compare what some of the older gear I historically worked on was capable of, X7000, Fz-1, DSS-1, EMAX, S-50 / S-550 etc. All very lo-fi samplers with high tech features. I actually still have all of those old samplers, and have used them extensively to feed my s2400 and give new life to my decades old samples! If you have ever listened to any of my tunes, you know that I use aliasing creatively, and a non aliased sound is the farthest thing from what my end results aim for. I use aliasing to create complex harmonics, and to add all kinds of nuance and vibe to my stuff.
MPC X is the main midi-brain, and compositional tool, it also acts as a hard drive recorder, and editing and arrangement tool. I use its effects quite a lot. And resample relentlessly, When I finally get my tracks arranged how I like them, then they run out from the MPC X, via the Model-24, through various outboard gear, summed into an SSL Big SIX mixer interface, into my DAW (Adobe Audition) @ 96 Khz / 24-bit for final arrangement, and mixing down to my stereo pre-mastered tracks.