Occasional sample dropout when tweaking filters in playback override

So I’ve had the S2400 for a few months now and it’s pushed my mpc2000xl out as my main beat making tool and I love it overall. However there is one obvious bug that keeps cropping up and I thought I should post about it here to see if anyone has any ideas on a fix. What happens is when playing with the filters in playback override mode there are occasional dropouts of samples (as in they don’t play for a step) even though there are no changes to the patterns themselves. It’s most noticeable when its the kick drum that drops and I have a video of it doing that here (around 43 seconds in, the bass line also drops out a second later):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqFsnHRI58

I also noticed it happening on a video posted on this forum by The Crates Motel: https://forum.islainstruments.com/t/masters-of-the-beats-part-1-a-kenny-dope-type-old-school-house-beat/10840 (happens at 18:26)

Another user ‘fooddude’ also chimed in on that post to say they have had the same problem.

I then searched through old bug reports to see if I could find any more people with this problem and came across these:

  • ‘sequencer forgets to play steps when using filter playback override’
  • 'sequencer stuttering when using playback overide
    (sorry won’t let me post more than 2 links as i’m a new user, so i’ve just added the titles of the posts)

but not sure if they are the exact same thing i’m seeing.

It’s not a big deal when making and recording beats but I did intend to replace my mpc with the s2400 for live use but as it is I don’t think it’ll be possible.

So, does anyone else have these dropouts? Are Isla aware of the issue? Is there a fix?

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I def noticed it, ever since I first got it.

I never took it seriously since I never used the machine to make a real/serious track yet - I kinda gave up on it, since it lacks a decent/usable basic midi-sequencer (like that of an mpc60 or other classic mpc) that can record/sequence and automate pitch/mod/CCs (smoothly too) to sequence external synths w/ an external-midi kybd-controller); as well as the sequencer cutting-off any midi-notes upon each loop repetition. Those are the main bugs/roadblocks for me to really use it seriously to make a track (my setup is all HW, Mackie mixer, synths, fx racks, etc.)
I just thought those drop-ous as an unintentional “randomizer” while I was learning it and making quick sketches for fun.

But, if I was actually making a serious jam/project on it, then for sure those drop-outs would be detrimental & frustrating (unless you were okay with random drop-outs for a live-sounding/randomized sequence).

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Yes this is an issue that’s well documented on here in other threads.
For now I just use the filters as an EQ ,it not the best filter for automation anyway.

You have basically got the choice of letting it bug you , pun not intended. Or just using it as a rudimentary EQ in my mind at least.
I have done some automation , and at least it doesn’t happen when playing it back, but whilst yr doing it , samples go missing etc yes.

Hopefully once things have settled down and in time , the sequencer will get so more love.