Is there any chance of implementing FX sends to returns A and B from each sample pad as opposed to having to first commit samples pads to output busses and only then being able to send a whole group of pads to the FX on Returns A and B?
What is preventing the S2400 to take signal from earlier in the chain?
All in all I think its a shame not to be able to have a dosage of reverb per sample pad.
For example, f you could send any sample pad to returns A and B, that could cover time based FX with delay and reverb on a per sample basis.
Then you could still route the sample pads from any bank to the desired busses in order to create groups with insert FX chains (and still have the ability to send those to returns A and B again for FX performance for example).
If going through busses is the only way to then get a send to the return channels, could you not implement a send to the busses so that the signal can cascade to the returns via the busses?
This would also allow users to send their signal out to FX pedals or rack units on a per pad basis without having to pass through a mixer for example.
I understand that is the structure, but is there a reason for which, preceding the individual output, the S2400’s internal digital routing can’t allow for mixing individual pad signals to any/all outputs by varying amounts?
Sorry if this is a silly question, i have other devices that can do that so im just curious.
as said, the DSP sits after the 8 output channels, so the only signals that reach the DSP are whatever is output on these 8 channels. there is no way for an individual sound/sample/track to reach the DSP without going through one of the 8 output channels
Yes I understood that, which is why I’m asking if you could potentially offer routing audio to several buses before the DSP.
By that I simply mean mixing a single pad’s audio signal to multiple busses.
Here is an example use case:
Sample pad A1 has a snare drum loaded.
That pad is routed to output 1-2, there are no DSP plugins on this output, the signal is therefore completely dry.
I would like to use bus 3-4 as my reverb for that snare drum, the reverb plugin is set to 100% wet.
To add some reverb to this snare drum, I mix some of its signal to bus 3-4 so it can hit the DSP reverb.
The signal is now fully dry at outputs 1-2 and 100% wet on outputs 3-4.
I can then do the same with any other sample pad in order to apply the amount of reverb I want on each pad, to taste.
All of this internal routing is happening before any signal reaches the DSP.
Seeing as we can balance the volume of a pad between pairs of outputs using the pan control, it means there is a way to route to outputs by a variable amount.
Is there no way to offer variable blending/mixing of signals across any/all buses?
This would also allow users to use hardware processing on the individual outputs which I’ve seen mentioned as a feature request here and there.
Not that this is my goal, but to illustrate my suggestion, the S2400 has a sufficient number of hardware outputs that we could mix in 7.1 if we so wished, we just need an interface to mix internally.
Gonna chime in here because I just got my S2400 back from ISLA HQ and have been learning the DSP card/effects. I’m really curious to know if there could theoretically be a Global FX processing firmware update in the future that would allow us to apply basic effects like a compressor or EQ across the entire stereo mix output? Essentially a Master FX work around. I believe that would make this machine complete, for me. Without the DSP installed I kinda tuned out of the forum chatter around it, so maybe @Mickey or @bradholland or @av500 already addressed this. Don’t wanna be an annoyance but am curious to know if the physical build of the machine/DSP card makes this a possibility or not. For what it’s worth, ChatGPT says it is possible and ‘would be a game changer for the S2400’ hahaha! Either way, loving this upgrade. It’s amazing.
That’s amazing! I’ve literally only had my unit for a day and have been reading through the updated manual this morning. Thank you so much for the clarification, my friend!
Yes, I know it isn’t currently supported, I’m curious to know if that is potentially something that could be implemented?
Does the S2400 have the processing power to achieve that?
Considering the considerable level of flexibility and capability this would bring to the device internally, and when interfacing with external processing, I’d say its a very desirable feature.
I think what @av500 is saying is that it’s not a matter of processing power but more a hardware design limitation? The circuit boards are already designed so it’s not as easy as just saying let’s change the signal path.
hey Brother. i’m not trying to be that annoying guy, but i’ve been trying to find in the couple of long DSP vids and the manual how to access assigning effects to the master bus. any chance you can point me in the right direction?
thanks @Mickey. i watched through the videos and read the updated manual and somehow i evaded comprehending the Shift + Pad 3 to assign effects to the mains you guys have made me fall in love with this machine all over again!
you guys have made me fall in love with this machine all over again! 