Yup, the DSP appeals to a lot of people and creates all sorts of new creative possibilities. If and when a filter card is made, there are going to be people who are dissatisfied with the filter circuitry or sound. Filters are so subjective which is why there are around 10,000 different modular filters available.
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Maybe 2026 or 2027 considering thereās already a lot to do.
I prefer to wait rather than having half-finished products, waiting for their next potential updates.
I know some analog filters sound amazing, but thereās also a lot of em out there which just sound meh to me. Its all a matter of taste. Filters being analog doesnāt make them better than digital ones automattically.
I dont really like the behaviour of the stock digital filters, theyre kind of unpredictable over the full range. For me, the dsp card is a great solution because we get to try all the filters, eqās and saturators we want. They might not be analog, but whatever sounds good sounds good!
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Iām glad I found the Inphonic guys . and also glad I pushed back the 950 filter topic here.
I agree with both @Sugarfoot76 and @Mobile_Suit on that.
the point of musical analog filters is not prioritized in the Isla Guys roadmap as far as Iām aware.
looks like its essential to many of us, but as I read , not prioritized in an S2400 HW nor DSP card roadmapā¦ and then we would need to wait even more for another upcoming filter cardā¦ as itās something you would expect day 1 from the sampler we boughtā¦ #sadbuttrue
Stupid point but could you potentially route a filter vst to the sample in / resample with the new dsp? There are lots of very good filter plugins out there that may be potentially compatible with the new dsp. Get its not analog but honestly vsts sound so close these days, and i have a bunch of analogs to compare to. I think the DSP card is the more exciting add on as it adds a whole new layer of power to the OS. Im def not against an analog filter card, it would be a sick additional add on. But adding fx to a sampling machine is pretty useful on many fronts.
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Unless the DSP update starts allowing direct resampling, I doubt you would be able to directly resample FX. Current workaround, as I understand it, would be to resample using the bounce pattern function to resample an entire pattern. That should ābake inā any effects that were apply to the pattern, which you could re-slice at that point.
I donāt see it that way.
The VST plugins that I like to use are highly unlikely to end up with the ability to run on the DSP card which is unfortunate.
Again Iām ok with that but I am definitely unhappy with the stock filters on the 2400.
So I just accepted the workflow of using things going in or coming out of the 2400.
I guess many people will find the list of plugins has some really useful jewels in it as well as things that allow for utilitarian use but the video of the DSP card just didnāt look like an enjoyable workflow.
It does look like it could be very capable once you have gone through enough plugins to see if any are appealing to you but the overall vibe just seems like a step I would rather not take.
As always keep in mind that I am a very happy S2400 user overall
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While I agree I would love to see a Filter card/Drive-- which was promised along with the launch-- I disagree that the digital filters are useless. They are GREAT for what they are (and Iām an analog filter snob).
I would MUCH rather see firmware implemented variable sample rate reduction per channel along with bit-rate reduction, which IMHO is more of āthe soundā we are all familiar with from the early sampler days. Iāve formally submitted this Feature Request over a year ago and would love to have it happen.
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My question would have to be then what are they, because they arenāt filters thatās for sure.
Well they are in the technical sense but you get what I mean.
We arenāt talking necessarily focused on them emulating something or being vintage, we are looking for them just to be usable.
With some of the stuff they were able to pull off itās hard to believe the filters missed the mark.
Also there is a major difference between usable and useless.
I pretty sure if I wasted enough time trying to accomplish something I could but I never would because at the end of it all it wouldnāt be something that properly represents the effort it took to get it.
I would be ok with them scrapping the Filter card and improving the current offering, just donāt act like they donāt fall short while doing nothing.
For what it is worth i also find some use for the stock filters and they do have their own soundā¦but ālack lustreā wasnāt an overly derogatory descriptor for them i think on my part.
I have listened to a lot of different filters over the years, and although i havenāt purchased any VSTs outside of fabfilters stuff i can say that even their offerings do not sound as good as most analogue filters i have used (mutator, akai mf42, filter in on Deep bass nine, and a plethora of analogue synths).
having said all that - i am sure that for many the DSP card will be more than enough processing potential and if it allows resampling with the effects then great.
No reason they wouldnāt be able to offer a range of filter circuits. They are planning that for the Caladan I think.
a few people on this thread have claimed that āsome analogue filters are crapā or words to that extent, but no one says which ones!! I personally have not heard any analogue filters i think are crap, just some that were not as easy to get along with as others, but even those had their own āthingā, for example the Casio FZ1 filters and the Akai AX73 filters.
I feel itās subjective. Some just donāt wow me personally like the Korg Miligogue filter or the Akai S950 but that could be due to my limited use of hardware filters.